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		<title>CHRISTOPHER VOGLER TELESEMINAR Q&amp;A (PART 4 of 4)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christopher Vogler (CV) and I conducted a wonderful tele-seminar a few weeks ago, it was great fun.
We had a stimulating Q&#38;A session. However, due to the abundance of questions and the limited time we were unable to take and respond to everyone’s questions on the live call.
But, I promised everyone on the call that they [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Vogler (CV) and I conducted a wonderful tele-seminar a few weeks ago, it was great fun.</p>
<p>We had a stimulating Q&amp;A session. However, due to the abundance of questions and the limited time we were unable to take and respond to everyone’s questions on the live call.</p>
<p>But, I promised everyone on the call that they would get their specific question answered and emailed to them directly. At this point everyone has received their individual response from CV.  Cool, right?</p>
<p>Well, it occurred to me that it may be beneficial to share some of it with you so I have randomly selected and posted a handful of the screenwriter’s questions and CV’s response here.  Enjoy part 4 of 4.</p>
<p>My hope is that it serves you.</p>
<p>**********************************************************************************************************<br />
Galia Hillhouse-Kwa-Zulu Natal, South Africa<br />
Am I shooting myself in the foot if I write screenplays with a South<br />
African background? Would I stand a better chance writing American<br />
stories?</p>
<p>CV:  I think your energy is best spent developing stories set in the<br />
world you know.  It is VERY difficult to conceal subtle signs that you<br />
did not grow up on the streets of Los Angeles, and they will not take<br />
you seriously if they detect that you are writing about things that<br />
are distant from your experience.</p>
<p>Pamela Ross-Sacramento, CA<br />
Mr. Vogler, have you ever developed a Western screenplay with Native<br />
American characters? Regardless, what would you look for as your main<br />
critique points in developing?</p>
<p>CV:  No, I never had a hand in a Western though I am fond of the<br />
genre.  Big influences on me were the Lakota shaman Black Elk and the<br /> <br />
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<p>poet John G. Neihardt who write about “the twilight of the Sioux”.</p>
<p>Main points:  Unusual take on a well-worn genre.  An unexpected<br />
setting or a new twist.  Something with contemporary relevance, a<br />
story from history that in some sense is still happening today.<br />
Compelling, attractive characters that will make actors want to play<br />
them.  A subject that a lot of people will relate to.</p>
<p>Constantine Veroutis-Calgary, Alberta, Canada<br />
What contribution did Chris take part in the developement script of<br />
Lion KIng and Till Eulenspiegel ?</p>
<p>CV:  Thanks for asking!  On Lion King I have a credit of “Additional<br />
Story Material by” which I share with about twenty other people who<br />
contributed ideas and scenes to the film.  My specific assignments </p>
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<p>were to draw a comparison between the Lion King and Hamlet, pointing<br />
out the Hero’s Journey of Hamlet and noting some famous quotes which<br />
were turned into jokes and dialogue references by the writers.  I<br />
contributed a couple of visual touches – the shaft of light that comes<br />
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sequence of the film, and a scene where Scar’s evil influence causes<br />
the waterholes to dry up.</p>
<p>On Till Eulenspiegel, an animated feature produced in Germany with a<br />
multinational crew, I wrote the entire screenplay and lyrics for a<br />
couple of songs.  The producer already had a rough story outline when<br />
I came aboard, and I worked from that and from the legends and stories<br />
of Europe’s favorite court jester, Till Eulenspiegel.  I modeled my<br />
story on the wonderful Danny Kaye comedies that I remembered from my<br />
childhood, marvelously silly films like THE COURT JESTER and THE<br />
INSPECTOR GENERAL.</p>
<p>Bruce Moore-Spring, Texas<br />
Why do so many wonderful historical subjects get made so different<br />
than what really(supposedly) happened, when the real-life stories are</p>
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<p>actually much more dramatic and/or interesting?</p>
<p>CV:  Oh man, don’t get me started.  I saw this happen right under my<br />
nose when Disney made a picture called “Squanto, a Warrior’s Tale”,<br />
based on research I had done for their story department.  The story<br />
was so loosely based on the amazing true story that I wished they had<br />
called it “Standing Water” or something else made up.  It wasn&#8217;t a bad<br />
story, it just had very little to do with the actual Squanto story<br />
which was much, much better.</p>
<p>I can only GUESS that studios make the mistake of hiring writers who<br />
are just doing a job and never fell in love with history, which as you<br />
point out almost always makes for much better stories than those the<br />
screenwriters make up.  People feel they have to “make the story their<br />
own” or maybe they don’t have confidence in the facts of history.</p>
<p>Jesse-San Antonio<br />
How would you go about selling a &#8220;High Concept&#8221; spec script in today&#8217;s market?</p>
<p>CV:  This is a very technical matter.  You’d have to SOMEHOW hook<br />
yourself into the high-speed world of execs and producers and agents<br /> <strong style="display:none"><a href="http://interactivehug.com/?the_clique">The Clique movie</a></strong><br />
who launch elaborate spec sales campaigns every week.  Personally, I’d<br />
be looking to make an alliance with a producer who has deals with the<br />
studios and who handles your kind of project.  Again, do your<br />
homework.</p>
<p>Brett Moore-Spring, Texas<br />
Michael Ray Brown say&#8217;s hello. What is your feeling about having a<br />
professional reader providing coverage?</p>
<p>CV:  I don’t think this helps you one bit in terms of convincing<br />
somebody to read it or buy it.  It’s not a sincere endorsement because<br />
you paid for it.  But it can have great value for YOU – the process of<br />
boiling something down to a synopsis often reveals flaws and<br />
inconsistencies in the story.  I ALWAYS do a synopsis of anything I’ve<br />
written or that I have to evaluate seriously.  It’s a big help in<br />
diagnosing story problems because it makes you focus on the big<br />
turning points.</p>
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		<title>CHRISTOPHER VOGLER TELESEMINAR Q &amp;amp;amp;amp; A (PART 1 of 4)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christopher Vogler (CV) and I conducted a wonderful tele-seminar last week, it was great fun.
We had a stimulating Q&#38;A session. However, due to the abundance of questions and the limited time we were unable to take and respond to everyone&#8217;s questions on the live call.
But, I promised everyone on the call that they would get [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Vogler (CV) and I conducted a wonderful tele-seminar last week, it was great fun.</p>
<p>We had a stimulating Q&amp;A session. However, due to the abundance of questions and the limited time we were unable to take and respond to everyone&#8217;s questions on the live call.</p>
<p>But, I promised everyone on the call that they would get their specific question answered and emailed to them directly. At this point everyone has received their individual response from CV.  Cool, right?</p>
<p>Well, it occurred to me that it may be beneficial to share some of it with you so I have randomly selected and posted a handful of the screenwriter&#8217;s questions and CV&#8217;s response here.  Enjoy part 1 of 4.</p>
<p>My hope is that it serves you.</p>
<p>**********************************************************************************************************</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><strong>DONNY-SHAWNEE,KS</strong><br />
when writing a potentially action-thriller blockbuster feature,<br />
pitting two massive franchises against eachother like predator vs<br />
aliens, how should i structure it. also, what is the best way to<br />
approach studios with it. should I approach them with a script,<br />
treatment or what, and would I need to aquire rights first since i&#8217;m<br />
writing it on spec with something involving a multimillion dollar<br />
franchise like terminator.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><strong><em>CV:</em> </strong>This sounds risky, a difficult thing to do even if you were<br />
deeply imbedded in Hollywood.  Sounds like a super-high concept and<br />
those kind of franchises are all highly guarded by lawyers.  It’s like<br />
a citizen trying to convince Canada and Brazil to become one country.<br />
I certainly wouldn’t waste time on developing a script.  The studio<br />
wants to have the fun of deciding what kind of script will be written<br />
from the concept.  Just write up your concept in treatment form.  Yes,<br />
you probably would have to acquire some kind of rights or else you’ll<br />
just get trampled.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><strong>Maria-Jackson</strong><br />
How to make a good script great! your famous &#8220;formular&#8221; for the hero<br />
with 1000 faces elaborated in our time.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><em><strong>CV</strong></em>:  Same as ever.  Put sympathetic but realistically flawed<br />
characters in a situation where they desperately want or need<br />
something and then make it devilishly difficult for them to get it.<br />
Along the way, give them mentors, allies, threshold guardians, and<br />
tests of character that lead them to transformation and deeper<br />
self-understanding. </span>Since so much of modern movie time is taken up with super-heroes and<br />
heroic action, you’d better know something about how the heroic form<br />
operates on the grand scale.  But don’t forget the power of simple,<br />
local, intimate stories, which can be just as heroic.
</p>
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<strong>Mark-Los Osos</strong><br />
I write a lot of horror &#8211; can you give a contemporary example of a<br />
horror film that successfully employs the hero&#8217;s journey?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><em><strong>CV: </strong></em>The last horror movie I saw was CLOVERFIELD which I quite enjoyed, a<br />
delicious nightmare.  It has a classic hero’s journey quest form.  The<br />
Ordinary World is a young man’s going-away party captured in<br />
convincingly amateur fashion with shaky hand-held cameras.  The Call<br />
to Adventure on the emotional level is his brother urging him to “go<br />
for it” and declare his love for a girl, followed a few seconds later<br />
by a more literal Call to Adventure as a mysterious giant monster<br />
bursts out of the streets of New York and starts slaughtering people.<br />
The hero and his friends go on a classic quest to save his trapped<br />
girlfriend.  The sacrifices and ordeals of a Hero’s Journey are all<br />
played out in timeless fashion except that the heroes are apparently<br />
killed at the end, reinforcing the horror effect.  Too much shaky<br />
camera for my taste, though.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><br />
<strong>CatherineVetere-London, UK</strong><br />
what is the first and, you consider, the most important element you</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"> consider when you first read a script?</span>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><em><strong>CV: </strong></em>If I were just reading in a vacuum, unaffected by the needs of a<br />
client or studio, it would be a compelling story that I’d like to see<br />
as a movie.  That means a great character in an interesting world, in<br />
a situation that produces emotional reactions. But I don’t read in a vacuum, and am almost always reading with some fairly precise and narrow ideas of what my client is looking for.<br />
Often I am looking for a story that will work for a particular star or director, or scanning for a particular genre.  The studio puts out the word that they need a children’s fantasy or an adult thriller, and I start looking for one.</span></p>
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<div style="display:none"><a href="http://www.vegblog.org/?amazing_grace">Amazing Grace full</a></div>
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<strong>Kristin Fieseler-Paderborn/Germany</strong><br />
Is the Special World&#8217;s function eliminating the character&#8217;s lack in<br />
the Ordinary World?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><em><strong>CV: </strong></em> That could be one of the functions.  Whether the hero realizes it<br />
or not, that’s why he or she goes there, to find their missing piece.<br />
The Special World has other functions though; providing a sharp<br />
contrast with the Ordinary World, providing a crucible for the hero’s<br />
transformation, offering the audience escapism with an exotic setting<br />
or unusual situation.</span> <span style="display: none; text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christopher Vogler (CV) and I conducted a wonderful tele-seminar a few weeks ago, it was great fun.
We had a stimulating Q&#38;A session. However, due to the abundance of questions and the limited time we were unable to take and respond to everyone’s questions on the live call.
But, I promised everyone on the call that they [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Vogler (CV) and I conducted a wonderful tele-seminar a few weeks ago, it was great fun.</p>
<p>We had a stimulating Q&amp;A session. However, due to the abundance of questions and the limited time we were unable to take and respond to everyone’s questions on the live call.</p>
<p>But, I promised everyone on the call that they would get their specific question answered and emailed to them directly. At this point everyone has received their individual response from CV.  Cool, right?</p>
<p>Well, it occurred to me that it may be beneficial to share some of it with you so I have randomly selected and posted a handful of the screenwriter’s questions and CV’s response here.  Enjoy part 3 of 4.</p>
<p>My hope is that it serves you.</p>
<p>**********************************************************************************************************</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">Suzanne-Muncie, Indiana<br />
When you have limited funds and you know that you have an exceptional<br />
script, what is the best way to get it into the right hands?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><em>CV</em>:  Do your homework.  Figure out who the critical people would be to<br />
get your project made.  Who’s the ideal director?  Studio to release<br />
it?  Actors to play the leads?  Find out the names and addresses of<br />
their companies from sources like IMDB.com or the invaluable Hollywood<br />
Creative Directory that lists all the major players.  Make your wish<br />
list and send out query letters saying “Would you like to read a<br />
terrific screenplay about X?”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"></p>
<p>Carmen Cifuentes-N. San Diego<br />
After 11 months of research, writing and rewriting with a professional<br />
coach I finished my script. It is a modern romantic comedy. An<br />
executive at Overture says it&#8217;</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">s high concept and wants a &#8216;dialogue<br />
rewrite&#8217;. While concept is my strength, dialogue is my weakness. What<br />
do I do? Dialogue writers are too expensive (thousands of dollars).<br />
Please advice. Thank YOU.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><em>CV:</em>  You’ve been thrown a challenge.  Sounds like you’re going to have<br />
to make a collaboration and find yourself someone at your level who<br />
has the necessary skills.  You kind of have to turn into a producer if<br />
you don’t feel confident growing a new brain as a dialogue expert.<br />
(This could take years of study and practice to make any noticeable<br />
change if it’s not your strong suit.)  You’ve got qualified<br />
encouragement there so it’s worth some effort.  Can you get involved<br />
in a local writer’s group and approach the best dialogue writer in the<br />
group about a collaboration?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><br />
Amy-Irvine<br />
In your opinion, what are the three biggest mistakes screenwriters<br />
make? And do you have any recommendations on how to best avoid making<br />
those mistakes? Thank you!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><em>CV:</em>  1.  Beginners sometimes overexplain and spend too much time on<br />
introductions and details of backgrounds and action.  Solution:  Give<br />
your writing a clean shave – go over it one time with one question in<br />
mind: What can I do without?  You’ll be amazed by how much better it<br />
gets when you start throwing stuff out.  It will read faster which is<br />
a great selling point.</span></p>
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<p>2. Beginners sometimes don’t differentiate characters enough.<br />
Everyone sounds the same, and most often they all speak in the voice<br />
of the writer.  Solution:  Make sure each character has a distinct way<br />
of speaking that reflects something about his or her personal history<br />
and attitude towards life.  Some people speak in incomplete sentences,<br />
some people run on and interrupt themselves, some people use a big<br />
vocabulary and colorful expressions while others are blunt and<br />
literal.</p>
<p>3. Some writers fail by losing sight of their main theme, or perhaps<br />
they don’t really know yet what the story is really about.  Solution:<br />
Ask yourself “What is the one word that describes what I’m writing<br />
about?”  It should be some basic human emotion or drive, like Love,<br />
Trust, Betrayal, Loyalty, Friendship, Ambition, Terror, etc.  Make<br />
sure every scene in your script somehow expands our understanding of<br />
that single word, your theme.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><br />
Mark-Los Osos<br />
Do you put any stock in scriptwriting software that seems to draw on<br />
your book for inspiration? And If you don&#8217;t have an agent or known name, what will get you noticed so that someone will read your script? I have a fantasy rom-com that has been optioned. A known director likes it, but says it isn&#8217;t quite &#8220;studio ready&#8221;. Is this some kind of code? What should I look for and change if I don&#8217;t receive notes?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><em>CV:</em>  First, Not personally.  All the software I need is inside my skull.  But<br />
hey, it couldn’t hurt if Vogler-inspired software helps you formulate<br />
a thought.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><br />
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">Second, a truly great script that makes people excited enough to want to<br />
tell somebody else to read it.  There is no other secret.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">Lastly, i</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">t means he saw some good features in it but can’t see himself<br />
sticking his neck out for it.  Trust your instincts on this one – you<br />
can usually “smell” what it is that shot you down.  Something struck<br />
that director as too corny or far-fetched, too underdeveloped, too<br />
esoteric, or too much like other projects floating around the studios.</span></p>
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